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[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html) >"In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did."
[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html) >"In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did."
It's unclear to what extent these new details were known by the House Democratic impeachment managers or whether the team considered calling McCarthy as a witness. The managers have preserved the option to call witnesses in the ongoing impeachment trial, although that option remains unlikely as the trial winds down. The House Republican leader had been forthcoming with his conference about details of his conversations with Trump on and after January 6. Trump himself has not taken any responsibility in public. [https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html)
It's unclear to what extent these new details were known by the House Democratic impeachment managers or whether the team considered calling McCarthy as a witness. The managers have preserved the option to call witnesses in the ongoing impeachment trial, although that option remains unlikely as the trial winds down. The House Republican leader had been forthcoming with his conference about details of his conversations with Trump on and after January 6. Trump himself has not taken any responsibility in public. [https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html)
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