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There is something interesting in this media coverage/controversy about the development of The Hudson Yards, in NYC. Its a good article with interesting parallels! But a bit of a miss in my opinion because there were never any mom'n-pop shops, or actually anything of the sort in The Hudson Yards, that area held MTA train storage and shipping containers. No people (culture) ever occupied that space, unlike actually established neighbourhoods like Williamsburg or Bushwick where - no museums or public spaces where built when highly developed by the same parties. I understand the gentrifying issues, but it seems like if there was any "alright" spaces for massive real estate to cultivate in NY... it would be there, where nothing ever was. Vs an area like my neighborhood, the LES, where this sort of hyper financial capital development is also happening at rapid pace with no benefits but a movie theater:(
There is something interesting in this media coverage/controversy about the development of The Hudson Yards, in NYC. Its a good article with interesting parallels! But a bit of a miss in my opinion because there were never any mom'n-pop shops, or actually anything of the sort in The Hudson Yards, that area held MTA train storage and shipping containers. No people (culture) ever occupied that space, unlike actually established neighbourhoods like Williamsburg or Bushwick where - no museums or public spaces where built when highly developed by the same parties. I understand the gentrifying issues, but it seems like if there was any "alright" spaces for massive real estate to cultivate in NY... it would be there, where nothing ever was. Vs an area like my neighborhood, the LES, where this sort of hyper financial capital development is also happening at rapid pace with no benefits but a movie theater:(
I think I understand your view Miemie, and thank you for posting this article. I don't know much about the project except that NYTimes editorial, but I'm glad to read a specialized headline coining the same words as me. They who are calling this devellopment "little Dubai" aren't actually talking about the legitimacy of such a project. I am more keen on criticizing the contingent of such part of a city. This as it is drawn today will never be part of NY City. It's like if 57th's super tall towers were not enough anymore for a billionaire to live withdrawn from the city fabric. Culture lies into city fabric and in inhabitants customs, and Hudson Yards lacks connection with those. Also, can you point me at where is LES ?
I think I understand your view Miemie, and thank you for posting this article. I don't know much about the project except that NYTimes editorial, but I'm glad to read a specialized headline coining the same words as me. They who are calling this devellopment "little Dubai" aren't actually talking about the legitimacy of such a project. I am more keen on criticizing the contingent of such part of a city. This as it is drawn today will never be part of NY City. It's like if 57th's super tall towers were not enough anymore for a billionaire to live withdrawn from the city fabric. Culture lies into city fabric and in inhabitants customs, and Hudson Yards lacks connection with those. Also, can you point me at where is LES ?
Hi [@Oonaung](/user/profile/Oonaung) ! sorry, I'm not quite sure what you're saying here...but thanks for your comment. Everything in New York City becomes apart of ... NYC whether the people who live here like it or not. My argument was not to agree with erecting buildings, for billionaires, but that is what has happened for the past 20 years + in within the 5 boroughs of NY. It's a large and complicated issue that will eventually ruin NYC and other major American Cities. What I am saying is that I think its irritating the media has chosen this opportunity to make a serious criticism of this type of real estate endeavor, after so much of this development has occurred in highly populated areas, with no benefit to the community, and was never written about. Its just press, I find it to be a problematic gesture within the media industry more than anything else. The L.E.S, stands for Lower East Side.
Hi [@Oonaung](/user/profile/Oonaung) ! sorry, I'm not quite sure what you're saying here...but thanks for your comment. Everything in New York City becomes apart of ... NYC whether the people who live here like it or not. My argument was not to agree with erecting buildings, for billionaires, but that is what has happened for the past 20 years + in within the 5 boroughs of NY. It's a large and complicated issue that will eventually ruin NYC and other major American Cities. What I am saying is that I think its irritating the media has chosen this opportunity to make a serious criticism of this type of real estate endeavor, after so much of this development has occurred in highly populated areas, with no benefit to the community, and was never written about. Its just press, I find it to be a problematic gesture within the media industry more than anything else. The L.E.S, stands for Lower East Side.
I need to workout my English, and not to forget the specificity of NY, that it reinvent itself faster than any other place. Simply put, I was trying to describe that Hudson Yards was bad by design, but as you mentioned the city will grow upon it as it did everywhere else. You're right about the fact that whatever the toxicity of real-estate speculation, it is unethical and an environnemental disaster, it will usually have good press even in specialized magazines. It might come from conflict of interest, or old-fashionned faith in the Bilbao effect. However, I wasn't surprised by the campaign against Hudson Yard, I should have if it is indeed the first to happen on your side. In Europe docks are turning intoluxury homes since late 90's, and I guess critics began to interest mainstream media when foreign investor joined the game.
I need to workout my English, and not to forget the specificity of NY, that it reinvent itself faster than any other place. Simply put, I was trying to describe that Hudson Yards was bad by design, but as you mentioned the city will grow upon it as it did everywhere else. You're right about the fact that whatever the toxicity of real-estate speculation, it is unethical and an environnemental disaster, it will usually have good press even in specialized magazines. It might come from conflict of interest, or old-fashionned faith in the Bilbao effect. However, I wasn't surprised by the campaign against Hudson Yard, I should have if it is indeed the first to happen on your side. In Europe docks are turning intoluxury homes since late 90's, and I guess critics began to interest mainstream media when foreign investor joined the game.
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