“Climate change intersects with this. On one hand, there are emergent forms of climate realism / climate doomerism — that it’s unrealistic to think we will mount a response to climate change, or that we can’t imagine a response. On the other hand, we may see fossil realism emerging: that it’s unrealistic to think we can imagine an alternative to fossil fuels. That they are so embedded in our infrastructure, imbricated in the pattern of how all things modern grow, in our financial system and institutions, that they can’t be removed, or something like that.”